I general, I use 1x tippet for all my carp fishing. I like to be able to horse them in I guess. I am wondering if going to a lower X flouro would result in more hook ups...any opinions?
Normally I would say that anytime you can get away with a smaller tippet, you should do it. But I tend to agree with Alex here. That 1X doesn't exactly seem to be hurting your hook-ups if the pigs in your posts are any indication.
I'm no carp expert and far from it in truth... I do know that when Im carp fishing the smaller lines sink faster, shortens the window of opprutunity at times.
Like you and I have talked about before John, I don't think Carp are terribly leader shy until we teach them to be. If a person fishes somewhere like a small lake where the fish are confined then I think they learn to be leader shy. In 2011 I fished some 0X in the late spring and early summer when the water was still so darn high.
I've also found that using a rapala knot when using heavier leader gives the fly much more movement, which seems to make up for the static of a heavier tippet.
But yeah, you seem to be doing just dandy with the 1X! :-)
All depends on where your fishing, water conditions, and the size/intelligence of the fish.
Heaviest I have ever used is 3x, mainly for the big guys in our posts. Most often I am using 4x and 5x because I have to. Normally, I am fishing to super skittish fish in a lake fed with the gin clear water of a spring creek. Little bit different scenario compared to the big "C". Fish average about 8 pounds in that case. All fluorocarbon. Keep in mind, I tend to use unweighted flies on really long leaders and the smaller diameter allows me to get the fly in the zone faster. With little obstruction in some of these waters, I don't have to worry about breaking off a lot of fish. Also, by no means am I tiring them to exhaustion.
Seems like everyone goes lighter than me...I might have to give that 3x floro a try at least. We went really heavy for the calf roping this past spring (as mr p said) but overall I have always stuck with 1 x. I would bet I hook more, and break more off!
I use mostly 3X and sometimes 2X in mostly stained water and haven't had any trouble landing Carp. I agree with the others if 1X works, continue using it.
I use 1X and 2X almost exclusively, except with a full sink line and a fly drug over a relatively clean bottom, when I use 0X. My tippet is Maxima, not noted for it's strength, but very abrasion resistant. So saying, my first ever carp was an 8lb. or so fish on a #18 brassie with 6X. Never the less, now if I find midging carp I try to getaway with gossamer (it seems now) 3X. I have had to absolutely stop huge carp trying hard to bury themselves in cattails that I think 3X would not handle. Erin's idea is a good one, albeit that I've never played with loop knots much. Iv'e had large carp take size 10 egg flies on that brown 1X Maxima, no problem. A pond I fish is hit hard by my group and bait fishers that learned about them from us, I still do well with 2X.
John, I was actually using 3x 8.5lb test flouro when I was there with you and only lost one to a breakoff. Of course, in general I wasnt hooking as many or as large of fish as you either! I suspect you would find 3x better than you would think for your averag or below average fish if you horse em a little less, but those above average 20s or even 30s would make me nervous!
First off I agree with Landeen, and secondly if the fish is too snooty to take you on 1X then he isn't worth your time. I say horse them in on the biggest stuff you got.
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Normally I would say that anytime you can get away with a smaller tippet, you should do it. But I tend to agree with Alex here. That 1X doesn't exactly seem to be hurting your hook-ups if the pigs in your posts are any indication.
I'm no carp expert and far from it in truth... I do know that when Im carp fishing the smaller lines sink faster, shortens the window of opprutunity at times.
Like you and I have talked about before John, I don't think Carp are terribly leader shy until we teach them to be. If a person fishes somewhere like a small lake where the fish are confined then I think they learn to be leader shy. In 2011 I fished some 0X in the late spring and early summer when the water was still so darn high.
I've also found that using a rapala knot when using heavier leader gives the fly much more movement, which seems to make up for the static of a heavier tippet.
But yeah, you seem to be doing just dandy with the 1X! :-)
All depends on where your fishing, water conditions, and the size/intelligence of the fish.
Heaviest I have ever used is 3x, mainly for the big guys in our posts. Most often I am using 4x and 5x because I have to. Normally, I am fishing to super skittish fish in a lake fed with the gin clear water of a spring creek. Little bit different scenario compared to the big "C". Fish average about 8 pounds in that case. All fluorocarbon. Keep in mind, I tend to use unweighted flies on really long leaders and the smaller diameter allows me to get the fly in the zone faster. With little obstruction in some of these waters, I don't have to worry about breaking off a lot of fish. Also, by no means am I tiring them to exhaustion.
Seems like everyone goes lighter than me...I might have to give that 3x floro a try at least. We went really heavy for the calf roping this past spring (as mr p said) but overall I have always stuck with 1 x. I would bet I hook more, and break more off!
I use mostly 3X and sometimes 2X in mostly stained water and haven't had any trouble landing Carp. I agree with the others if 1X works, continue using it.
I use 1X and 2X almost exclusively, except with a full sink line and a fly drug over a relatively clean bottom, when I use 0X. My tippet is Maxima, not noted for it's strength, but very abrasion resistant. So saying, my first ever carp was an 8lb. or so fish on a #18 brassie with 6X. Never the less, now if I find midging carp I try to getaway with gossamer (it seems now) 3X. I have had to absolutely stop huge carp trying hard to bury themselves in cattails that I think 3X would not handle. Erin's idea is a good one, albeit that I've never played with loop knots much. Iv'e had large carp take size 10 egg flies on that brown 1X Maxima, no problem. A pond I fish is hit hard by my group and bait fishers that learned about them from us, I still do well with 2X.
Gregg
John, I was actually using 3x 8.5lb test flouro when I was there with you and only lost one to a breakoff. Of course, in general I wasnt hooking as many or as large of fish as you either! I suspect you would find 3x better than you would think for your averag or below average fish if you horse em a little less, but those above average 20s or even 30s would make me nervous!
First off I agree with Landeen, and secondly if the fish is too snooty to take you on 1X then he isn't worth your time. I say horse them in on the biggest stuff you got.
You catch a TON of carp using your 1x Tippets. It obviously works. Unless you feel you are spooking too many fish because of the tippet, don't change.
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